ABSOLUTE DETERMINISIM & "THE PROBLEM OF EVIL"

.........the nature of finite verses infinity

FIRST: “A SIMPLISTIC VIEW”

God did not create evil. However, He did create all things knowing beforhand the beining middle & end of all. The angels were created with "free agency" as well, the ability to choose their own actions just as man did in the garden. God knew all the begining & the ends equally and that is whst he created. But God is not "responsible" for anything because God defines what responsibility is as well as the sole authority to assign guilt. God created guilt! God created the creatures subject to his definitions of responsibility & guilt. This is not a play on who is in charge but rather a fundimental nature of what it means to be a finite quantity created within preset and defined limitations of finite by a eternal infinity. (which is God).

God defines what evil is and it is God alone who ascribes guilt & assigns responsibility. God is NOT subject to any definition or assignment external of his definitions. The rules that applie to the creation do not apply to the one who created & defines all of its terms and all of its rules for the creation to interact within.

There is no "problem of evil" because evil is defined by God. Only the creation is subject to, defined & or judged as evil or good. God created the poisons in nature. God took the tree of life away from man so thst man would not live forever. God created sheol the grave God did not intended that humans live forever in the physical world. God created the condition that we conceptualize as death. God defined all the mechanics of the death experiance. God determined all men die & some with more & others with less happiness in this life. God owes you nothing snd his purpose is for things beyond this physical existance. So when God ordered His people to commit genocide what difference does it make if God sends an angelic army to wipe out the Assyria or posions snakes to kill his own "citizens" or kills everyone with "old age" & withholds everlasting physical life. DEAD IS DEAD and God has already determined everyone to die some suffer other fo not and it makes no difference because Gods purpose is not your purpose nor is that purpose rooted in this physical existance. Everyone is going to die! So when God ordered the childeren of Israel to commit genocide it is simply the method of his choosing for thoes peoples death. Thf fundimental issue was about the obediance of his people NOT the fact all thoes prople were slaughtered. God had alreafy determined them & every one to die. Only God can decide who long humans live and in what cercumstances they will die. Gods creation has a defined set of limitations and rules by which everything interacts within. God csn allow thoes rules to play out knowing exactly what the outcome is already or he can also interject himsrlf directly to interrupt the "natural flow" he created so as to produce a new outcome that otherwise would not. There is no problem of evil. The problem is human conceptualization & limited ability to see the bigger picture.

Not withstanding, God created Satan knowing exactly what satan would become thats why God had planned Christ BEFORE the foundation of the world & wrote names in his book of life BEFORE the foundation of the world. God created & put the tree of life into the garden knowing the outcome.

SECOND: A MORE COMPLEX VIEW OF “INFINATE & FINITE”

The finite can only exist within some infinity otherwise there is no way to define its existance.

[Imagine the white potion of this diagram extending in all directions infinitely.(2D or 3D) All time, past present & future, all space and all energy of heaven & earth exist within limits & bounds set & defined within this infinity. All creatures are finite with finite time, knowledge power et al. Time itself is a defined limitation. Even which way “cause & effect” & or “the arrow of time flows is a finite defined set within this infinity.]

God is the begining and the End. God is eternal infinity. Time, space & all creatures in heaven & earth are finite limitations defined by God. All points in space and time past present and future all exist within God simoltaneously! God is not moving through time. Time is a limited set defined by himself. God equally exist in our past present & future. God determines what time is and which way the arrow of time flows. God creates the set rules that govern & produce our concept of cause & effect. God himself is eternal & infinite with infinite knowledge of himself as such is fundimentaly absolute determinisim itself.

Infinate knowledge in infinite space & infinite "time" is inheriantly deterministic for all points of any created space, time ( past, present & future) or creature. All points of existance exist simoltaneously within that infinite eternal God matrix. All of creation including angels, demons & man are finite and as such every part of their finite beining is known to the infinite in which they all exist.

The devil never took any actions that God did not already know about before the devil-demons were created. The angels and devils were created higher then men with more knowledge & power but man is only "a little lower" and all areas still finite. Time is a set limitations within the infinite eternity of Gods own self. all points in "time" past present & future are equally known to God because there is no time external of Gods infinite nature. He sets the boundaries for all finite sets. This is also why God is equaly in the past as he is in the present.

Eternal infinity is the "matrix" for all of time, space & creature. All are finite sets and even which way the "arrow of time" flows within God himself is defined by God because he sets all the limits, bounds & all the rules for how all interact with each other. God does NOT exist within time. Time exist within the eternal infinity of God himself. Past present and future are defined by and within Gods eternal infinite nature. God exist in our future just as equally has he exist in our present or past all simoltaneously. God does not experiance time. God creates finite sets with rules of interactions. God knows all outcomes before they began. God is himself the essence of "absolute determinisim". Randomness & free will are all exercises of finite creatures operating in a defined finite conditions with finite ability to know all the interactions, outcomes but God does know & knew before any of his finite creations were created & defined.

Infinite Determinism only has meaning wrt God himself and cannot be experienced or perceived directly by thoes who are created as finite. This is true for man angels & demons. Randomness is a determined set of unknown variables. It can only be known by the one (God) defining it, not the finite creature experiencing it.

Determinisim cannot be perceived by anything other then God himself since everything else is finite including the choices & people defined by the limitations of finite experience, knowledge, space, time energy-power, knowledge within Gods infinite determination. God determines choices and ability to exercise these choices himself. God determines free will as a determined experiance of randomness that follows his defined infinte nature. The finite entities created within his own matrix cannot grasp all the rules or variables that produce the interactions as such can only be perceived as randomness and as such experiance randomness. The experiance of randomness is created by a determined defined finite set(s) of limitations within a absolutly determined infinite matrix of GOD himself.

To speak of a deterministic outcome only has any meaning wrt God himself alone unless he let's you in on a specific kind of determinism which is colloquial known as prophecy or a "slight" insight in to randomness such as chaos throry but there are limits. Being able to expand our new insights into the rules that govern randomness creates the experiance of knowledge growth.

There would be no experience of free will if God allowed his finite created enties to experience his infinite nature becuase God is infinite & that that nature is deterministicly preknown at all points within himself. The finite sets of variables he creates is what creates the experiance of randomness, of free agency, of time, of space. What meaning has space or time if it is not defined? If it is defined it is limited. If it is limitied what is it a limitation of?

This is why God interacts with his limited creations even angels, the devil using limited interactions, dialogs and questions even knowing the definite outcomes beforehand. It is the limited interactions themselfs, with the limited knowledge of the finite enties in the dynamic that creates the experience of free will and choice! God could tell you the determinisim beforehand but if he did and being absolutely determined woild thus take away from the experience of free agency or randomness. God's full determinisim experienced by the finite could not create free agency for the finite, it would collapses it!

Free agency is created by experiencing God's infinity but only in limited defined set portions, in limited defined ways. This is why no man or angel can fullly experience God in totality it would destroy all self agency. This also why the devil who also being created with his own free agency is limited and almost certainly initialy did not understand exactly who or what God is for if he had truly known that God was a absolute infinite, knowing everything about every detail of every aspect of everything beforhand, seems unlikely he would have tried to sneak around and or out smart, undo God.

God projects himself into the dimensional space of the angelic in a similar fashion as he projected himself into the physical space of humanity. (See Trinity heresy charts) But neither angel nor man nor any created finite can fully experience or present to that infinity without destroying the limitations that define the finite. In otherwords to loose existance since existance is defined by the limitations set within that infinity.

God determines free agency & creates it via defining the exact nature of limitations within his eternal God infinite absolute determinisim.

Thus determinism is not due to any materialistic model. Materialisim does not produce determinism and if it did then a limited God would be bound by & or within it rather then a limited materialisim bound to or defined within an infinite God. That would simply make a version of materialisim into God, rather then a infinite God who determines a finite materialisim and building what the finite entities consider randomness & possibilities into that finite materialistic universe. Randomness is the observational value of free agency. It is only random to the finite. Randomness does not exist as a environmental condition in which God lives in or is subject to. God creates randomness within his own infinite determined self -matrix.

“FREE WILL IS THE “EXERCISE” IN FINITENESS WHERE AS DETERMINISIM IS THE STATE OF INFINITY, IN WHICH IT EXIST”